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افتراضي رد: رابطة ملاك القوية فيات 125 لتبادل المعلومات ؟

انا احترمت كلام الشخ جدا وعملت بيه فعلان والسياره معى من حوالى سبعه اشهر بعد تغير الموتور لم تحتاج لى مصاريف بالفعل ولان الان لدى مشكله الفيتيس وانا من ساعه مجات السياره وانا عمرى مشتكيت من الفتيس بس الان الفيتيس اصبح بطى جدا وبيعلق فى الغيارات وبونتر من المارشدين ومبيجبش 100 سرعه غير ان الموتور صوته بيعلى اوى ايه الحل
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قديم 02-10-2013, 01:46 AM
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افتراضي رد: فيات 125 تكييف واوتوماتيك وتعمل على الهيدروجين المستخرج من الماء !!!!


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Dry Cell on Carb 1.5L, After Some Tests 50% :D *!*

Hi to all.
I'm Gatech, from Colombia.

I bought a Kit of Dry Cell that appears to be good.

It's a 12 plate 316L:



I have a Fiat 125 76", Carburetted 1500c.c. Engine is recently repaired (and working so well).

I followed seller instructions mixing 1L of water with KOH (that came with the Kit). I mixed 2 teaspoons with the solid KOH, getting 18A with the PWM at maximum (opened). After that I moved the PWM to get maximum 10A.



Some things I have to say:

- On my car, when I'm not accelerating, Amps drop down (when Cell is cold), when it's "hot", Amps are more constant.
- When lights are on, they usually lower a little.





I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HHO IS PRODUCED, but I tested by the end tube on water, and it makes a lot of burbles.


After that, I put the end tube over the Carburettor, like 2-3cm over it, pointing to the "mouths" (venturys called here):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/G...Copiar.jpg




Base line (city): 25Km/gal - 15.54MPG.
Base line (highway aprox): 30-32Km/Gal

- First test:
I tried with a lot. 10A when accelerating. But after 1 hour, it got upto 10.5A - 11A accelerating. Not accelerating, like 8A-9A.
Results: NEGATIVE. 12% LESS : ( 13.79MPG.

- Second Test:
I tried with 9A at MOST when accelerating, and "hot". I drove on highway, with no traffic (sunday), and I got 22.14MPG. Highway Baseline: APROX 18.6MPG. I won approx 18% - 22% : ) .

- Third Test:
Again driving on the city, with PWM limited only to let at MOST 8A ("hot" and accelerating), and driving with few traffic today I got 17.26MPG. I got only 11.1% more : (

- 4rd, 5th, 6th test: 25%, 40% AND 50%. CHECK ABOVE POSTS!

Driving on city, but with good traffic.

I got for 50Km 1.8Gal: 27.77 Km/Gal : 17.26MPG
City baseline: 15.54MPG.
I got only 11.1%

Cell was working at MAX 8A when it's "hot" and accelerating.
When is not hot 7A, accelerating.
When not accelerating 4-5A, hot: 7-8A.


What am I doing wrong? . I'm sure it's generating HHO, and injecting as I'll show you:



Next test: 7A MAX.
http://www.fuelsaver-mpg.com/documents.html


*!* Hi all!. Dry Cell on Carb 1.5L, After Some Tests 50% :D *!*
I leaned a LOT more the Carburettor:
The external jets, lower, the main jet, lower.


Yesterday, in Highway, I got ~50%, Not exactly, but possibly more

Same Amps: Max 6.5HOT. But emissions still are bad, really bad, HC over 650 :S and NOT constant. I'll buy an Electronic Timer to try to fix it.

Next test, same Amps, same Jets (looking for results on city).

PD: Tengo un Foro en ESPAÑOL, tiene de todo, para los que les pueda interesar, estamos creciendo, con mucha información:
http://hidrogenohho.foroactivo.c om.mx/

Regards.

Ok. I didn't notice that you had a carburetor. I though it was just a throttle body. If you have a carb, you should easily get a MINIMUM of 35% gains. I'll look forward to your results.
With 35% gains do you refer to increasing MPG on 35%? That means 25.9% savings per Gal. Or do you refer to 35% savings per Gal?.

If you're getting 20 mpg before HHO, and 30 mpg after, that's 50% gain. You've added 50% more mileage per gallon of gas.

I also lowered all the Fuel Jets of the carb, and moved the timming to 0. Now I got upto 56% more Km/Gal.

Ohh.. you have to find the exact Amps to get the best results, more are NOT better . On a 1500c.c I need at most 6.5Amps.

following your progress with great interest mate .As i have a Fiat 125 Twin cam in my Lada Niva and have been running HHO for some time now on it and am happy with my results so far .This is my first system that i built and it is a Smacks Wet 18 Plate Cell .Ive since learned that Wet Cells are not very popular amongst HHO fans these days but in my case it was an experimental cel to see if these systems were able to be made to work, or were some kind of misleading imfo items put out there as a means for some ones financial gains .But i must agree that these things do work and from my experience mine works quite well for what it is .I am curantly looking to build 2 new dry cells .One for my Fiat Lada ,and one for my 1996 V6 3.5 ltr Mitsubishi Pajero 4x4.I would like to build my own units but may have to buy them ready made as i live in a Country town and its hard to find some one to lazer cut my plates and to get all the bits required to build my own units .Thats it for now i think .Cheers Trev .

I wish Electronic ignition will help me to get better results... now Emissions are still wrong (a lot), so I thing there is a problem with that.

Thanks, we're waiting for the photos...

If you want to see my 125p :P http://img507.imageshack.us/slideshow/pl...012d7.smil

http://www.fuel-saver.org/Thread-Hi-...ome-Tests-50-D















125 اسبيشيال بتكييف اصلى من شركتها !!!!!!!!!!!









واوتوماتيك كمان









( صورة)



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قديم 02-10-2013, 02:13 AM
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افتراضي رد: فيات 125 تكييف واوتوماتيك وتعمل على الهيدروجين المستخرج من الماء !!!!


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Dry Cell on Carb 1.5L, After Some Tests 50% :D *!*

Hi to all.
I'm Gatech, from Colombia.

I bought a Kit of Dry Cell that appears to be good.

It's a 12 plate 316L:



I have a Fiat 125 76", Carburetted 1500c.c. Engine is recently repaired (and working so well).

I followed seller instructions mixing 1L of water with KOH (that came with the Kit). I mixed 2 teaspoons with the solid KOH, getting 18A with the PWM at maximum (opened). After that I moved the PWM to get maximum 10A.



Some things I have to say:

- On my car, when I'm not accelerating, Amps drop down (when Cell is cold), when it's "hot", Amps are more constant.
- When lights are on, they usually lower a little.





I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HHO IS PRODUCED, but I tested by the end tube on water, and it makes a lot of burbles.


After that, I put the end tube over the Carburettor, like 2-3cm over it, pointing to the "mouths" (venturys called here):

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b341/G...Copiar.jpg




Base line (city): 25Km/gal - 15.54MPG.
Base line (highway aprox): 30-32Km/Gal

- First test:
I tried with a lot. 10A when accelerating. But after 1 hour, it got upto 10.5A - 11A accelerating. Not accelerating, like 8A-9A.
Results: NEGATIVE. 12% LESS : ( 13.79MPG.

- Second Test:
I tried with 9A at MOST when accelerating, and "hot". I drove on highway, with no traffic (sunday), and I got 22.14MPG. Highway Baseline: APROX 18.6MPG. I won approx 18% - 22% : ) .

- Third Test:
Again driving on the city, with PWM limited only to let at MOST 8A ("hot" and accelerating), and driving with few traffic today I got 17.26MPG. I got only 11.1% more : (

- 4rd, 5th, 6th test: 25%, 40% AND 50%. CHECK ABOVE POSTS!

Driving on city, but with good traffic.

I got for 50Km 1.8Gal: 27.77 Km/Gal : 17.26MPG
City baseline: 15.54MPG.
I got only 11.1%

Cell was working at MAX 8A when it's "hot" and accelerating.
When is not hot 7A, accelerating.
When not accelerating 4-5A, hot: 7-8A.


What am I doing wrong? . I'm sure it's generating HHO, and injecting as I'll show you:



Next test: 7A MAX.
http://www.fuelsaver-mpg.com/documents.html


*!* Hi all!. Dry Cell on Carb 1.5L, After Some Tests 50% :D *!*
I leaned a LOT more the Carburettor:
The external jets, lower, the main jet, lower.


Yesterday, in Highway, I got ~50%, Not exactly, but possibly more

Same Amps: Max 6.5HOT. But emissions still are bad, really bad, HC over 650 :S and NOT constant. I'll buy an Electronic Timer to try to fix it.

Next test, same Amps, same Jets (looking for results on city).

PD: Tengo un Foro en ESPAÑOL, tiene de todo, para los que les pueda interesar, estamos creciendo, con mucha información:
http://hidrogenohho.foroactivo.c om.mx/

Regards.

Ok. I didn't notice that you had a carburetor. I though it was just a throttle body. If you have a carb, you should easily get a MINIMUM of 35% gains. I'll look forward to your results.
With 35% gains do you refer to increasing MPG on 35%? That means 25.9% savings per Gal. Or do you refer to 35% savings per Gal?.

If you're getting 20 mpg before HHO, and 30 mpg after, that's 50% gain. You've added 50% more mileage per gallon of gas.

I also lowered all the Fuel Jets of the carb, and moved the timming to 0. Now I got upto 56% more Km/Gal.

Ohh.. you have to find the exact Amps to get the best results, more are NOT better . On a 1500c.c I need at most 6.5Amps.

following your progress with great interest mate .As i have a Fiat 125 Twin cam in my Lada Niva and have been running HHO for some time now on it and am happy with my results so far .This is my first system that i built and it is a Smacks Wet 18 Plate Cell .Ive since learned that Wet Cells are not very popular amongst HHO fans these days but in my case it was an experimental cel to see if these systems were able to be made to work, or were some kind of misleading imfo items put out there as a means for some ones financial gains .But i must agree that these things do work and from my experience mine works quite well for what it is .I am curantly looking to build 2 new dry cells .One for my Fiat Lada ,and one for my 1996 V6 3.5 ltr Mitsubishi Pajero 4x4.I would like to build my own units but may have to buy them ready made as i live in a Country town and its hard to find some one to lazer cut my plates and to get all the bits required to build my own units .Thats it for now i think .Cheers Trev .

I wish Electronic ignition will help me to get better results... now Emissions are still wrong (a lot), so I thing there is a problem with that.

Thanks, we're waiting for the photos...

If you want to see my 125p :P http://img507.imageshack.us/slideshow/pl...012d7.smil

http://www.fuel-saver.org/Thread-Hi-...ome-Tests-50-D















125 اسبيشيال بتكييف اصلى من شركتها !!!!!!!!!!!









واوتوماتيك كمان









( صورة)



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